This is 16 1/4 inch bar B Saddle made in Terrel, Tx by John the saddle maker . He was known to be a great saddle maker. His saddles are hard to find now. This one is extra nice. It's a ranch Roping saddle with a 6 1/4 inch cantle that gives a deep seat and good pocket , 6 long leather tie strings, all brass hardware , real wool lining . Never been roped out of. This nice saddle is only $1200.